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« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2010, 11:36:42 PM » |
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Now correct me if I'm wrong, but the Mosin Nagant shoots the 7.62x54 doesn't it?
They also come in 7.62x39 carbine (rare and expensive), 7,92x57 polish, 8x50R Austrian, 30-06 US variant, and there is even a 12 guage version. Did the Soviets chamber them for these rounds? I know some of the battlefield pickup rifles that were re-arsenaled in other countries were changed and some have been sporterized to other calibers, but never heard of any Soviet GI units that were anything other than 7.62x54.
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« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2010, 02:14:26 AM » |
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Now correct me if I'm wrong, but the Mosin Nagant shoots the 7.62x54 doesn't it?
They also come in 7.62x39 carbine (rare and expensive), 7,92x57 polish, 8x50R Austrian, 30-06 US variant, and there is even a 12 guage version. Did the Soviets chamber them for these rounds? I know some of the battlefield pickup rifles that were re-arsenaled in other countries were changed and some have been sporterized to other calibers, but never heard of any Soviet GI units that were anything other than 7.62x54. Here's a fairly extensive list of who did what regarding the Nagant. The 7.62x39 is Finnish carbine and the 12 guage is Russian, according to the list. http://www.mosinnagant.net/USSR/variations_of_the_rifles_mosin.asp
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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2010, 04:22:44 AM » |
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The other European rifle in use at the same time was the German Mauser (8mm Mauser), also made in a lot of other countries, like Yugoslavia, Sweden, Turkey, etc.
I would be cool to have a really nice example (or two) of each one.
I have fully been warned that cosmoline is actually a highly addictive drug. And the only way to get a fix, is to go buy a second, then third, then fourth mosin. That being said, the first coat of stain is almost 100% dry. I need to lay another layer on the top piece, to darken it up slightly to match the whole stock. I went with a red walnut, oh dear lord. From the looks of it, it is great. Didn't want it to look like a professional job and do the whole thing to look like a show piece. I field stripped it down to the wood only, and then sprayed some EZoff oven cleaner. Left it sit for five-10 minutes, and wiped it off. Then, I did it again. Then took some coarse sand paper, and got the rest of the cosmo, and some imperfections out. There are some spots that look like it might be burned i.e darker slightly. So I then took some fine 220 grit, and went over it till it felt like silk. Took it outside, applied a layer of the dark varnish, and left it sit for five minutes. Wiped it off, and took it inside to dry completely. It's a really deep reddish color. Absolutely fantastic. You can still see some of the flaws, and some of the discoloration that happened over the last 70 years. And that is exactly the way I wanted it. I am just so excited, I half expected to royaly screw something up, never done anything like that before. But man oh man, my hands are dry and craqcked, my shoulders ache, I have stain on my hands, pants, and I believe my face. But it was worth it. Like a knight that climbs the tower to rescue the princess, or the fat man that defies gravity and makes it back to the couch for that second sandwhich. Like the guy who got yelled at by the wife for spending money on a 70 year old rifle that he . . .oh . . crap. That last one was a little too litteral lol.
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« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2010, 04:26:33 AM » |
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Now correct me if I'm wrong, but the Mosin Nagant shoots the 7.62x54 doesn't it?
They also come in 7.62x39 carbine (rare and expensive), 7,92x57 polish, 8x50R Austrian, 30-06 US variant, and there is even a 12 guage version. Did the Soviets chamber them for these rounds? I know some of the battlefield pickup rifles that were re-arsenaled in other countries were changed and some have been sporterized to other calibers, but never heard of any Soviet GI units that were anything other than 7.62x54. There are others that are very rare. As in I have been looking, and I have only seen a handful. And that was here on the net. Chambered in .22. They were used as a training tool. Soldiers got used to the weight and feel of the rifle, and squeezed off some rounds. The .22 being obviously cheaper than the 7.62. These were mainly used before the war, and when the war came, most where changed over to the 7.62.
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« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2010, 08:56:14 AM » |
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Now correct me if I'm wrong, but the Mosin Nagant shoots the 7.62x54 doesn't it?
They also come in 7.62x39 carbine (rare and expensive), 7,92x57 polish, 8x50R Austrian, 30-06 US variant, and there is even a 12 guage version. Did the Soviets chamber them for these rounds? I know some of the battlefield pickup rifles that were re-arsenaled in other countries were changed and some have been sporterized to other calibers, but never heard of any Soviet GI units that were anything other than 7.62x54. There are others that are very rare. As in I have been looking, and I have only seen a handful. And that was here on the net. Chambered in .22. They were used as a training tool. Soldiers got used to the weight and feel of the rifle, and squeezed off some rounds. The .22 being obviously cheaper than the 7.62. These were mainly used before the war, and when the war came, most where changed over to the 7.62. Reading up on them is like a history of Europe for the last 130 years lesson.
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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2010, 10:24:54 AM » |
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Now correct me if I'm wrong, but the Mosin Nagant shoots the 7.62x54 doesn't it?
They also come in 7.62x39 carbine (rare and expensive), 7,92x57 polish, 8x50R Austrian, 30-06 US variant, and there is even a 12 guage version. Did the Soviets chamber them for these rounds? I know some of the battlefield pickup rifles that were re-arsenaled in other countries were changed and some have been sporterized to other calibers, but never heard of any Soviet GI units that were anything other than 7.62x54. Here's a fairly extensive list of who did what regarding the Nagant. The 7.62x39 is Finnish carbine and the 12 guage is Russian, according to the list. http://www.mosinnagant.net/USSR/variations_of_the_rifles_mosin.aspThanks for the link, I would like to have one of the M56 carbines in 7.62x39.
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« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2010, 10:24:06 PM » |
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Now correct me if I'm wrong, but the Mosin Nagant shoots the 7.62x54 doesn't it?
They also come in 7.62x39 carbine (rare and expensive), 7,92x57 polish, 8x50R Austrian, 30-06 US variant, and there is even a 12 guage version. Did the Soviets chamber them for these rounds? I know some of the battlefield pickup rifles that were re-arsenaled in other countries were changed and some have been sporterized to other calibers, but never heard of any Soviet GI units that were anything other than 7.62x54. Here's a fairly extensive list of who did what regarding the Nagant. The 7.62x39 is Finnish carbine and the 12 guage is Russian, according to the list. http://www.mosinnagant.net/USSR/variations_of_the_rifles_mosin.aspThanks for the link, I would like to have one of the M56 carbines in 7.62x39. Or buy a Ruger M77 Hawkeye Compact in 7.62x39. LOL
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« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2010, 10:34:26 PM » |
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Well the Ruger is probably cheaper than the M56 Mosin and I would suspect it to be a nicer and better rifle, but not the same desire compared to an old battle gun.
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« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2010, 01:55:38 PM » |
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Cool thing about the Finnish version was that if it did not shoot 1MOA it was either melted down or was not handed out .... I have held one and I may see if my buddy wants to let go of it ... You can tell it is different than my mosin 91/30 as it has a heavier barrel and some other things .. Very nice gun. I will see if I can get some pics of it.
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« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2010, 06:17:56 PM » |
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Well, got it finished and took it out shooting two days in a row. First day was to the sportsmans club about two hours away for a group shoot. Alot of people thought it was really nice, and there was another one down there too, but wasn't numbers matched. Talked to the other owner, we shot each others and he asked how I got the sight lined up so well. I told him it just came that way, and from about 30 yards, dead on. Put about 30 rounds through it, and my shoulder was getting sore. So I switched over to the ak's, and ar's for a little bit. Then, yesterday went out to the boonies. A friend has a camp with a little range set up. We all shot it a little bit, and seemed pretty happy with it. There was an old propane tank, one of the smaller ones you might use on a camp stove that had a few holes in it. Set that up at about 50 yards, took a deep breath. . . and missed. Tried again, dead on center. Put two very clean holes in it. So in two days, I put about 75 rounds through it. Sights are great, a little heavy, but I didn't have any jams, missfires, or anything along those lines. All in all, I am extremely happy with it. I'll need to snap a few pics of it though.
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« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2010, 09:40:56 AM » |
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Yes, we need to see this gun.
I bought an old M95 Steyr last year and shot it some, but the ammo was crazy expensive and it wasn't really what I wanted (I really want a nice Mosin Nagant or a K98 Mauser) so I sold it a while ago.
At one time I wanted to collect old military rifles, but I don't have the room or the money to collect everything I would like, so I decided to focus on modern guns.
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